In this special episode of POD Strangely Warmed, host Rev. Daniel Hawkins sits down with Bishop Ruben Saenz Jr. and Bishop Delores Williamston of the Louisiana Annual Conference. Recorded during the first Horizon Texas Annual Conference, this conversation explores what it means to lead with resilience through life’s challenges and the ongoing work of ministry. Bishop Williamston and Bishop Saenz, longtime friends and colleagues, share stories of grit, grace, and vision, offering wisdom and encouragement for anyone seeking to lead with faith and courage in a complex world.